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A recent story by ChinaSmack triggered off a heated debate with hundreds of comments illustrating the issue is very much alive, not only among foreigners in China, but also among the Chinese.
Enough reason to pick this subject for the first China Weekly Hangout, for Thursday 6 September, on 9pm Beijing Time, 3pm CEST and 9am Eastern.
When you have questions, comments or want to join yourself in the hangout (places are very limited), you can drop a comment here or send more conventional an email.
At the first official China Weekly Hangout we will be joined by:
Janet Carmosky, is China guru at-large and CEO of the China Business Network. She started her Chinese Studies major (U. Penn) in '81 at age 17; graduated & moved to China (Xi'an) in 1985; married into PRC family 1986; lived & worked in China - mostly Shanghai - through 2003, when she returned to USA.
Richard Brubaker is the producer of All Roads Lead to China, Adjunct Professor of Management, Sustainability and Responsible Leadership at China Europe International Business School. With almost 20 years of Asia experience (the last 10 based in mainland China), Rich assists his clients (both Fortune 500 companies and SMEs) in understanding the China market, determining their own China platform and implementing effective strategies. He is currently living in Shanghai. He interviewed recently 50 people in Hong Kong, Singapore and Shanghai on the issue of foreigners leaving China.
Andrew Hupert spent the over 10 years as a corporate trainer, writer, and lecturer in Shanghai, working with both local and multinational businesses. His professional work has focused on improving the deal-making and negotiating skills of both local and multinational corporations. Andrew is also very active on the academic side of business, and he regularly lectures about international negotiation and business strategy at top Shanghai business schools and universities, such as New York University and Strathclyde University’s EMBA program. He recently returned to New York.
Moderation is done by Fons Tuinstra, former foreign correspondent in Shanghai and co-founder of the Shanghai Foreign Correspondents Club and currently president of the China Speakers Bureau, dividing his life between Brasschaat, Belgium and Lausanne, Switzerland.
You can sign up for the event here. At the event page you will find before the event also the YouTube link and you can leave questions and comments during the event. You can watch the event at the event page, at the China Herald in this space and at YouTube.
Basic instructions for joining a Hangout (it is really easy) you can find here.
Next China Weekly Hangout will be on the question why Chinese are leaving China. Planned for Thursday September 13, 9pm Beijing Time, 3pm CEST and 9am Eastern.
First shot for next week (source):
First shot for next week (source):
5 comments:
Just got this mail in. Not sure if we have space to let him share his experience in the hangout, but certainly making valid points:
Just wanted to know if I could join the hangout as I believe I have a few good points to talk about regarding the issue of expats leaving China.
I first came to China in 1999 as a 17yr old IT Consultant from India looking at new ventures in China and spent 10 years in different cities around China working in IT, Events/Networking company in Beijing, Education ( Teaching Etiquette etc ), Associate of VC in Shenzhen, Working at nightclubs as manager and even starting a couple of factories with Chinese partners. However when our son was born in Dec 2008 within a month we decided to leave China ( My wifes from Russia ), even if one had asked me how long I wanted to stay in China, a week before he was born I would have said indefinitely and things completely changed after.
We went to South Africa/Namibia and started a few other ventures... Last year October'11 we came back to China for holidays and travelling and weirdly enough we realised that we really missed living here and we just ended up staying here now doing startup events and ICT consulting in Southern China. I guess everyone needs a break from China however the fact that one has lived in China wont ever let you truly leave China.
Anyway I would love to discuss more about this at the hangout if there is more space,
Thanks for featuring me as a case study, but a couple of things. First, kindly spell my name correctly in the text. Secondly, I outlined the reasons I've left in some detail in my article (which you've linked to), which are two fold: (1) My business has now expanded beyond China and (2) Half my client base is from the US so that's why I'm moving there. There are no other reasons, so please don't speculate on anything else. Thanks - Chris Devonshire-Ellis
Ah, misspelling a name is a classic journalist trick to get reactions from people :-)
No, it's just bad manners and lazy typing. Thank you. Chris
I may add it seems in Chris's case, if you read his article he's personally leaving China, but the company he founded is not. That's a different thing from Kitto and Custer who just left and left nothing of value behind. So I think there are different categories. CDE left as a career move, the others left because they failed. Just my thoughts.
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